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Angeluscaligo
February 8, 2015

Rohknos = Tail-Strike
From the sentence "Wahrok nos", lit. tail-strike
Alt. Nosvahrok
From the sentence "Nos do wahrok"
Alt. Sahnodrok
From the sentence "Sahrot noose do dii wahrok", Mighty strike of my tail

Kendolin = Cycle of the world
From the sentence "Kenlik do Lein" (lit. cycle of the world)
Alt. Leinkin
From the sentence "lein kenlik" (lit. world cycle)
Alt. Lokenlin
From the sentence "Lot kenlik do lien" (lit. great cycle of the world)

Feynolduin = Alduins Devouring
From the sentence "feyn nol lot alduin" (lit. Bane from Great Alduin)
Alt. Alhobwah
From the sentence "Alduin lost bo wah du" (lit. Alduin has come to devour)
Alt. Dulein
From the senence "Du do lein" (lit. The great devouring of the World)

I know we should avoid compounds, but I find that always there should be an inkling or implication of the root-word present, which can serve as a very large indicator for translators & novices to understand the word.

by Angeluscaligo
February 8, 2015

Rohknos = Tail-Strike
From the sentence "Wahrok nos", lit. tail-strike
Alt. Nosvahrok
From the sentence "Nos do wahrok"
Alt. Sahnodrok
From the sentence "Sahrot noose do dii wahrok", Mighty strike of my tail

Kendolin = Cycle of the world
From the sentence "Kenlik do Lein" (lit. cycle of the world)
Alt. Leinkin
From the sentence "lein kenlik" (lit. world cycle)
Alt. Lokenlin
From the sentence "Lot kenlik do lien" (lit. great cycle of the world)

Feynolduin = Alduins Devouring
From the sentence "feyn nol lot alduin" (lit. Bane from Great Alduin)
Alt. Alhobwah
From the sentence "Alduin lost bo wah du" (lit. Alduin has come to devour)
Alt. Dulein
From the senence "Du do lein" (lit. The great devouring of the World)

I know we should avoid compounds, but I find that always there should be an inkling or implication of the root-word present, which can serve as a very large indicator for translators & novices to understand the word.


Jarl Gjalund
February 8, 2015

I have added the following worthy words to my list:

  • Qel - an event that will happen, an inevitable fate
  • Korosaan - an event that has happened
  • Wul - to fly against the wind
by Jarl Gjalund
February 8, 2015

I have added the following worthy words to my list:

  • Qel - an event that will happen, an inevitable fate
  • Korosaan - an event that has happened
  • Wul - to fly against the wind

Naxsuleykdinok
February 8, 2015

I don't know what people think about Dovhilvrii for Dragon Heartscale. I quite like it, because it's quite a simply constructed word, consisting of literally 'Dragon Heartscale'.

by Naxsuleykdinok
February 8, 2015

I don't know what people think about Dovhilvrii for Dragon Heartscale. I quite like it, because it's quite a simply constructed word, consisting of literally 'Dragon Heartscale'.


paarthurnax
Administrator
February 8, 2015

To reiterate, I don't think compound words (or literal compound words) are the right approach. It somewhat undermines the point of the words being unique to Dovahzul.

From an internal point of view, it's unlikely that some of these words would be compound words, because the root meanings should be natural or inherent. "To strike with the tail" is something that wouldn't naturally occur to us, but "to strike with the foot "or "to strike with the fist" are, which is why we have words like "punch" and "kick." For dragons, striking with the tail would occur as naturally as "punch" and "kick" occur to us, so something like wahroknos would be rather artificial or unnatural.

by paarthurnax
February 8, 2015

To reiterate, I don't think compound words (or literal compound words) are the right approach. It somewhat undermines the point of the words being unique to Dovahzul.

From an internal point of view, it's unlikely that some of these words would be compound words, because the root meanings should be natural or inherent. "To strike with the tail" is something that wouldn't naturally occur to us, but "to strike with the foot "or "to strike with the fist" are, which is why we have words like "punch" and "kick." For dragons, striking with the tail would occur as naturally as "punch" and "kick" occur to us, so something like wahroknos would be rather artificial or unnatural.


Felniir Ahvus
February 9, 2015

How about 'kor' for dragon heart scale?  It is short, and it is not a root yet, but it could be a player for having been extended in other words that are already built like koraak for belief, koraazen for insight, korii for witness, and kord for prime.  These are all internal qualities close to the heart.

 

by Felniir Ahvus
February 9, 2015

How about 'kor' for dragon heart scale?  It is short, and it is not a root yet, but it could be a player for having been extended in other words that are already built like koraak for belief, koraazen for insight, korii for witness, and kord for prime.  These are all internal qualities close to the heart.

 


Felniir Ahvus
February 9, 2015

Also, perhaps 'waas' for the tail strike.  It is similar to the word kaas, which is a sudden pain or painful emotion.  I'm relating it to a sudden, unexpected motion of the tail that causes pain.

by Felniir Ahvus
February 9, 2015

Also, perhaps 'waas' for the tail strike.  It is similar to the word kaas, which is a sudden pain or painful emotion.  I'm relating it to a sudden, unexpected motion of the tail that causes pain.


KhagraTheJester
February 9, 2015

WOO TEAMWORK

by KhagraTheJester
February 9, 2015

WOO TEAMWORK


DiilSosAh
February 9, 2015

Perhaps to strike with the tail could be something like Mohk or Mohkien to take a little from the english word Maul, and make it sound more powerful.

 

And Heartscale could maybe be something like Qaal which is a meld of the dovahzul words for armor and heart.

by DiilSosAh
February 9, 2015

Perhaps to strike with the tail could be something like Mohk or Mohkien to take a little from the english word Maul, and make it sound more powerful.

 

And Heartscale could maybe be something like Qaal which is a meld of the dovahzul words for armor and heart.


Felniir Ahvus
February 9, 2015

I like 'mohk' better than mohkien for being shorter. Kick is 'ster' and punch is 'baag.'  I think one syllable is better for a basic physical action.

by Felniir Ahvus
February 9, 2015

I like 'mohk' better than mohkien for being shorter. Kick is 'ster' and punch is 'baag.'  I think one syllable is better for a basic physical action.


JaarilHeyvAam
February 10, 2015

Dovahko-"dragon inside" mb can be useful for making dragon heartscale rot. Mb we can use "-se-".

by JaarilHeyvAam
February 10, 2015

Dovahko-"dragon inside" mb can be useful for making dragon heartscale rot. Mb we can use "-se-".


Felniir Ahvus
February 10, 2015

It's a good idea, JaarilHeyvAam, but it's still a longer compound. 

I was actually trying to recommission Strunsesille's earlier suggestion of using 'kor' for the worldcycle to include it as the dragon heartscales because I thought it could fit based on other words.  Did anyone have a reaction to either 'kor' or DiilSosAh's 'qaal' for dragon heartscales?

Also, any reactions to DiilSosAh's suggestion of 'mohk' or my suggestion of 'waas' for the tail strike?

by Felniir Ahvus
February 10, 2015

It's a good idea, JaarilHeyvAam, but it's still a longer compound. 

I was actually trying to recommission Strunsesille's earlier suggestion of using 'kor' for the worldcycle to include it as the dragon heartscales because I thought it could fit based on other words.  Did anyone have a reaction to either 'kor' or DiilSosAh's 'qaal' for dragon heartscales?

Also, any reactions to DiilSosAh's suggestion of 'mohk' or my suggestion of 'waas' for the tail strike?


hiith
February 10, 2015
Felniir Ahvus

Also, any reactions to DiilSosAh's suggestion of 'mohk' or my suggestion of 'waas' for the tail strike?

"Mohk" is an atypical spelling, so it probably won't get accepted, but I'm not too sure about "waas", but it can work.

And doesn't dinoksetiid cover "Alduin's devouring of the World, the end of a kalpa"? Or am I missing something there?

by hiith
February 10, 2015
Felniir Ahvus

Also, any reactions to DiilSosAh's suggestion of 'mohk' or my suggestion of 'waas' for the tail strike?

"Mohk" is an atypical spelling, so it probably won't get accepted, but I'm not too sure about "waas", but it can work.

And doesn't dinoksetiid cover "Alduin's devouring of the World, the end of a kalpa"? Or am I missing something there?


paarthurnax
Administrator
February 10, 2015

I like waas for "tail-strike." Maybe something more consonental, though? Such as vaast or naast. As you mentioned, one-syllable words are great for physical action.

Kor isn't bad, but does face a potential problem with being too close to koor "summer."

Dinoksetiid - you're absolutely right, this word fits that meaning already. Tiid here more refers to "a length of time" rather than time itself.

by paarthurnax
February 10, 2015

I like waas for "tail-strike." Maybe something more consonental, though? Such as vaast or naast. As you mentioned, one-syllable words are great for physical action.

Kor isn't bad, but does face a potential problem with being too close to koor "summer."

Dinoksetiid - you're absolutely right, this word fits that meaning already. Tiid here more refers to "a length of time" rather than time itself.


Felniir Ahvus
February 10, 2015

You're right on the spelling, Hiith. I didn't think of that. Mok is also a pronoun, so it wouldn't work to adjust it that way.

Maybe dinoksetiid is the general term for when a world ends and "Alduin's devouring of the World" is specific to what's supposed to happen in this world.  That's an important point, but I don't think I've got an answer. Anybody with more lore knowledge have any insight?

by Felniir Ahvus
February 10, 2015

You're right on the spelling, Hiith. I didn't think of that. Mok is also a pronoun, so it wouldn't work to adjust it that way.

Maybe dinoksetiid is the general term for when a world ends and "Alduin's devouring of the World" is specific to what's supposed to happen in this world.  That's an important point, but I don't think I've got an answer. Anybody with more lore knowledge have any insight?


DiilSosAh
February 11, 2015

Just out of curiosity is there a word that means, to rise from the dead, I mean there is Diil but is there a word for the act of raising the dead or rising from it?

Also I noticed that this site has no definition for Kalpa. Why is that?

by DiilSosAh
February 11, 2015

Just out of curiosity is there a word that means, to rise from the dead, I mean there is Diil but is there a word for the act of raising the dead or rising from it?

Also I noticed that this site has no definition for Kalpa. Why is that?

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