@Laaghadrim, fixed to laaghahdrim. Not that hadrim is an alternate spelling that appears in canon.
@Malzeseyosel, edited this to yosel-funiik or "temperature-teller."
@Grenvah, there is no word grunvah that I can find?
Word Revision Thread
 paarthurnax Administrator July 17, 2015 |
@Laaghadrim, fixed to laaghahdrim. Not that hadrim is an alternate spelling that appears in canon. @Malzeseyosel, edited this to yosel-funiik or "temperature-teller." @Grenvah, there is no word grunvah that I can find? |
by paarthurnax
July 17, 2015
 Maakrindah July 17, 2015 |
@Liis
@ Genvah If you please, for my edification - Isn't that the same kind of difference between 'Lake' & 'Like' in English? Are these kinds of differences and similarities to be avoided in Dovahzul? |
by Maakrindah
July 17, 2015
@Liis
@ Genvah
If you please, for my edification -
Isn't that the same kind of difference between 'Lake' & 'Like' in English? Are these kinds of differences and similarities to be avoided in Dovahzul?
 Liis Administrator July 17, 2015 |
Oops my bad. It was Grunzah with a z. Nevermind on the spelling change then; they're different enough. @Maakrindah, The difference is that we can change it at will. We can't change like or lake to something more contrasting. Just because another language allows close spellings doesn't justify why we would. We'd be better to stay clear of justifying dovahzul's ways to English if we're to not be an English cypher. |
by Liis
July 17, 2015
Oops my bad. It was Grunzah with a z. Nevermind on the spelling change then; they're different enough.
@Maakrindah, The difference is that we can change it at will. We can't change like or lake to something more contrasting. Just because another language allows close spellings doesn't justify why we would. We'd be better to stay clear of justifying dovahzul's ways to English if we're to not be an English cypher.
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paarthurnax Administrator July 17, 2015 |
Any language that has a sufficient body of words (like most natural languages) will end up having ones that sound similar, so that's not quite the concern here. It's most important when it comes to canon words. For example, a hypothetical word dovruvah "chicken" probably shouldn't contain dov if possible to help avoid confusion. |
by paarthurnax
July 17, 2015
Any language that has a sufficient body of words (like most natural languages) will end up having ones that sound similar, so that's not quite the concern here. It's most important when it comes to canon words. For example, a hypothetical word dovruvah "chicken" probably shouldn't contain dov if possible to help avoid confusion.
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Liis Administrator July 17, 2015 |
@paarthurnax, My point was to avoid confusion, but I'm not too concerned with words that are a little similar rather than heavily similar. The 2 letter difference in Grenvah and Grunzah are fine - especially since one letter difference is a consonant. Vowels are more susceptible to sound like another. |
by Liis
July 17, 2015
@paarthurnax, My point was to avoid confusion, but I'm not too concerned with words that are a little similar rather than heavily similar. The 2 letter difference in Grenvah and Grunzah are fine - especially since one letter difference is a consonant. Vowels are more susceptible to sound like another.
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Maakrindah July 17, 2015 |
@Liis Fair enough, but what about Dovahzul words like 'Dii', 'Dah' and'Do'? - (keeping in mind that these are each two rune words.) Does it become acceptable in examples in which there are only two or three runes in the Dovahzul word? Does it really come down to the individual word? Is it that Canon examples are acceptable, but it should be avoided in constructed words? I'm just thinking out loud. I am interested in learning this so that I can apply the knowledge to my word entries. |
by Maakrindah
July 17, 2015
@Liis Fair enough, but what about Dovahzul words like 'Dii', 'Dah' and'Do'? - (keeping in mind that these are each two rune words.) Does it become acceptable in examples in which there are only two or three runes in the Dovahzul word? Does it really come down to the individual word? Is it that Canon examples are acceptable, but it should be avoided in constructed words? I'm just thinking out loud. I am interested in learning this so that I can apply the knowledge to my word entries.
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Maakrindah July 18, 2015 |
@paarthurnax That makes sense. Avoid words that could easily be mistaken for the wrong root word? |
by Maakrindah
July 18, 2015
@paarthurnax That makes sense. Avoid words that could easily be mistaken for the wrong root word?
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Liis Administrator July 18, 2015 |
@Maakrindah, Yes, that's what he means. |
by Liis
July 18, 2015
@Maakrindah,
Yes, that's what he means.
Also, yes, it's mandatory to be acceptable - we obviously can't change canon. :p
On a side note, I oddly don't think Do, Dah and Dii are problematically close.
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paarthurnax Administrator July 18, 2015 |
@Fahraal, I think "remark" is closer to "comment" or "quip" than "answer" or "response." |
by paarthurnax
July 18, 2015
@Fahraal, I think "remark" is closer to "comment" or "quip" than "answer" or "response."
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paarthurnax Administrator July 19, 2015 |
Liis Added "prosperity." |
by paarthurnax
July 19, 2015
LiisAdd definition "Prosperity".
Added "prosperity."
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Maakrindah July 19, 2015 |
For a word like "Zahraan", is 'to make-' implied in the definition? For instance, 'Empty the trashcan' would be 'Zahraan fin dahstahdoor', but would 'His son's death made empty his home' be something like 'Ok kulro dinok verzahraan ok hofkiin' or would the prefix 'ver-' be redundant for this verb? |
by Maakrindah
July 19, 2015
For a word like "Zahraan", is 'to make-' implied in the definition? For instance, 'Empty the trashcan' would be 'Zahraan fin dahstahdoor', but would 'His son's death made empty his home' be something like 'Ok kulro dinok verzahraan ok hofkiin' or would the prefix 'ver-' be redundant for this verb?
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paarthurnax Administrator July 20, 2015 |
Maakrindah You're correct, "to make" would be implied in zahraan, so zahraan is "to make empty/hollow." |
by paarthurnax
July 20, 2015
MaakrindahFor a word like "Zahraan", is 'to make-' implied in the definition? For instance, 'Empty the trashcan' would be 'Zahraan fin dahstahdoor', but would 'His son's death made empty his home' be something like 'Ok kulro dinok verzahraan ok hofkiin' or would the prefix 'ver-' be redundant for this verb?
You're correct, "to make" would be implied in zahraan, so zahraan is "to make empty/hollow."
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