By that logic, non-canon words shouldn't even exist.
Modern words poll.
Loniizrath April 8, 2014 |
By that logic, non-canon words shouldn't even exist. |
Mahlaansaviik April 8, 2014 |
Rotte los miirney. |
Rotte los miirney.
hiith April 8, 2014 |
But non-canon words should make sense if it were in the game's atmosphere. And, Mahlaansaviik, you just blew my mind, by the way. |
But non-canon words should make sense if it were in the game's atmosphere. And, Mahlaansaviik, you just blew my mind, by the way.
Loniizrath April 8, 2014 |
Mahlaansaviik ^ this is my new arguement |
MahlaansaviikRotte los miirney.
^ this is my new arguement
otakufreak40 April 8, 2014 |
Toxikyle Many users of Quenya and Sindarin would like to disagree with you. Yes, there are some that add words for "Neo-Quenya" or "Neo-Sindarin", but those (it would seem) are in the minoritry. |
ToxikyleWe're the largest group of people who speak this language by far. I don't see why we shouldn't make it our own.
Many users of Quenya and Sindarin would like to disagree with you. Yes, there are some that add words for "Neo-Quenya" or "Neo-Sindarin", but those (it would seem) are in the minoritry.
Loniizrath April 8, 2014 |
otakufreak40Toxikyle Yes, but the only people who speak dovahzul are right here. The language was (and is) incomplete, and since no one else speaks it, we should make it useable for the majority. Only about 10% of all words we use are canon. |
otakufreak40ToxikyleWe're the largest group of people who speak this language by far. I don't see why we shouldn't make it our own.
Many users of Quenya and Sindarin would like to disagree with you. Yes, there are some that add words for "Neo-Quenya" or "Neo-Sindarin", but those (it would seem) are in the minoritry.
Yes, but the only people who speak dovahzul are right here. The language was (and is) incomplete, and since no one else speaks it, we should make it useable for the majority. Only about 10% of all words we use are canon.
otakufreak40 April 8, 2014 |
Mahlaansaviik "Words are eternal."? Maybe in an artlang, but realistically words change all the time. Sometimes to unbelievable degrees. |
MahlaansaviikRotte los miirney.
"Words are eternal."? Maybe in an artlang, but realistically words change all the time. Sometimes to unbelievable degrees.
otakufreak40 April 8, 2014 |
Toxikyleotakufreak40Toxikyle We're the only people we know of to use it. Other online communities probably are just less popular (strange, since this isn't exactly the most well-known site out there) and eventually die out. The only exceptions would be Wikis such as UESP and Wikia, who are only concerned canon (though accuracy is debatable). |
Toxikyleotakufreak40ToxikyleWe're the largest group of people who speak this language by far. I don't see why we shouldn't make it our own.
Many users of Quenya and Sindarin would like to disagree with you. Yes, there are some that add words for "Neo-Quenya" or "Neo-Sindarin", but those (it would seem) are in the minoritry.
Yes, but the only people who speak dovahzul are right here. The language was (and is) incomplete, and since no one else speaks it, we should make it useable for the majority. Only about 10% of all words we use are canon.
We're the only people we know of to use it. Other online communities probably are just less popular (strange, since this isn't exactly the most well-known site out there) and eventually die out. The only exceptions would be Wikis such as UESP and Wikia, who are only concerned canon (though accuracy is debatable).
Loniizrath April 8, 2014 |
Still, no other group uses the same dovahzul we do. |
Still, no other group uses the same dovahzul we do.
otakufreak40 April 8, 2014 |
Toxikyle Good point, but I still wish there would at least be more people who could potentially vote on this, instead of just the, what, few hundred? we have. |
ToxikyleStill, no other group uses the same dovahzul we do.
Good point, but I still wish there would at least be more people who could potentially vote on this, instead of just the, what, few hundred? we have.
Loniizrath April 8, 2014 |
Over 1,100. At least. |
Over 1,100. At least.
hiith April 8, 2014 |
Um, very off-topic, I know, krosis, but "miirney" is different from "eternal". "Eternal" means lasting throughout all time, but "miirney" means it's not within or bound to the laws time. |
Um, very off-topic, I know, krosis, but "miirney" is different from "eternal". "Eternal" means lasting throughout all time, but "miirney" means it's not within or bound to the laws time.
Loniizrath April 8, 2014 |
Hiith Still, words are bound by time, and do change frequently. |
Hiith
Um, very off-topic, I know, krosis, but "miirney" is different from "eternal". "Eternal" means lasting throughout all time, but "miirney" means it's not within or bound to the laws time.
Still, words are bound by time, and do change frequently.
otakufreak40 April 8, 2014 |
Toxikyle Really? I'll be damned. Still, I'd rather not have modern words in Thuum.org's official wordlist, but I'm not gonna throw a hissy fit if we decide to have them in there. Nice porfile pic, by the way. To paraphrase chuggaaconroy on why Wooper is an awesome Pokemon: "I'm sorry, but if you can be that happy all the time and not have any arms, then you freaking own.
Yes, but "Words are outside of the boundries of time." is too verbose. |
ToxikyleOver 1,100. At least.
Really? I'll be damned. Still, I'd rather not have modern words in Thuum.org's official wordlist, but I'm not gonna throw a hissy fit if we decide to have them in there.
Nice porfile pic, by the way. To paraphrase chuggaaconroy on why Wooper is an awesome Pokemon: "I'm sorry, but if you can be that happy all the time and not have any arms, then you freaking own.
Um, very off-topic, I know, krosis, but "miirney" is different from "eternal". "Eternal" means lasting throughout all time, but "miirney" means it's not within or bound to the laws time.
Yes, but "Words are outside of the boundries of time." is too verbose.
hiith April 8, 2014 |
ToxikyleHiith I understand and agree (I wasn't the one who said otherwise). But, if you think about it, the words always exist but their meanings are changing. Someone could have said "television" thousands of years ago, but it wouldn't mean anything. And it now makes sense as a word. But isn't that what we're doing to Dovahzul with modern words? We can't make an anceint Greek word for "refridgerator". Dovahzul was meant to be in the time of Skyrim, but should we consider it bound to Skyrim's time and context? That is the issue at hand. |
ToxikyleHiith
Um, very off-topic, I know, krosis, but "miirney" is different from "eternal". "Eternal" means lasting throughout all time, but "miirney" means it's not within or bound to the laws time.Still, words are bound by time, and do change frequently.
I understand and agree (I wasn't the one who said otherwise). But, if you think about it, the words always exist but their meanings are changing. Someone could have said "television" thousands of years ago, but it wouldn't mean anything. And it now makes sense as a word. But isn't that what we're doing to Dovahzul with modern words? We can't make an anceint Greek word for "refridgerator". Dovahzul was meant to be in the time of Skyrim, but should we consider it bound to Skyrim's time and context? That is the issue at hand.
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