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Number System

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Liis
Administrator
June 25, 2015

List of Numbers

    Nul
    NUL

  1. Gein
    G2N

  2. Ziin
    Z3N

  3. Sed
    SED

  4. Hir
    H7

  5. Hen
    HEN

  6. Sok
    SOK

  7. Zud
    ZUD

  8. Thiik
    TH3K

  9. Yed
    YED

  10. Zet*
    ZET
    (One instance only)


List of Suffixes

  • -o
    -O
    • Tens place
      "_____ty"
      (Numbers 10-99)
  • -to
    -TO
    • Hundreds place
      "_____ hundred"
      (Numbers 100-999)
  • -zo
    -ZO
    • Thousands place
      "_____ thousand"
      (Numbers 1,000-999,999)
  • -uth/-nuth
    -UTH/-NUTH
    • -illions place
      "___illion"
      (Numbers 1,000,000-1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
  • -aan/-raan
    -1N/-R1N
    • Ordinal
    • "First, Second, Third..."
  • -t
    -T
    • Adverbial
    • "Once, Twice, Thrice..."
  • -sinak
    -SINAK
    • Polygonal
    • "Triangle, Quadrilateral, Pentagon..."
  • -vah
    -V4
    • Multiplicative
    • "to double, to triple, to quadruple..."

Exceptions:

    Ordinal spelling changes and rule
  • Gein --> Diist
  • Ziin --> Ziist
  • Sed --> Siid
  • Only use suffix -raan if the number ends in a vowel
    • Adverbial spelling changes
  • Gein --> Ont
  • Sed --> Set
  • Sok --> Sukt
  • Zud --> Zut
  • Thiik --> Thukt
  • Yed --> Yet
    • Polygonal rule
  • Only applicable for Sed onward
    • Multiplicative rule
  • Only applicable for Ziin onward

  • *Zetuth
    ZETUTH
    "Decillion" (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
    by Liis
    June 25, 2015

    List of Numbers

      Nul
      NUL

    1. Gein
      G2N

    2. Ziin
      Z3N

    3. Sed
      SED

    4. Hir
      H7

    5. Hen
      HEN

    6. Sok
      SOK

    7. Zud
      ZUD

    8. Thiik
      TH3K

    9. Yed
      YED

    10. Zet*
      ZET
      (One instance only)


    List of Suffixes

    • -o
      -O
      • Tens place
        "_____ty"
        (Numbers 10-99)
    • -to
      -TO
      • Hundreds place
        "_____ hundred"
        (Numbers 100-999)
    • -zo
      -ZO
      • Thousands place
        "_____ thousand"
        (Numbers 1,000-999,999)
    • -uth/-nuth
      -UTH/-NUTH
      • -illions place
        "___illion"
        (Numbers 1,000,000-1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
    • -aan/-raan
      -1N/-R1N
      • Ordinal
      • "First, Second, Third..."
    • -t
      -T
      • Adverbial
      • "Once, Twice, Thrice..."
    • -sinak
      -SINAK
      • Polygonal
      • "Triangle, Quadrilateral, Pentagon..."
    • -vah
      -V4
      • Multiplicative
      • "to double, to triple, to quadruple..."

    Exceptions:

      Ordinal spelling changes and rule
  • Gein --> Diist
  • Ziin --> Ziist
  • Sed --> Siid
  • Only use suffix -raan if the number ends in a vowel
    • Adverbial spelling changes
  • Gein --> Ont
  • Sed --> Set
  • Sok --> Sukt
  • Zud --> Zut
  • Thiik --> Thukt
  • Yed --> Yet
    • Polygonal rule
  • Only applicable for Sed onward
    • Multiplicative rule
  • Only applicable for Ziin onward

  • *Zetuth
    ZETUTH
    "Decillion" (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)

    paarthurnax
    Administrator
    June 25, 2015

    Previous thread for reference.

    One minor correction, the word for "eight" (at some point) will change from eln to ot. That can happen regardless of the number system.

    Some written number examples with the above system:

    • 18 - geino ot
    • 151 - geinto heno gein
    • 7,256 - zoso ziinto heno sok
    • 100,280 - geintoso ziinto otno
    • 850,321 - geinto henoso sedto ziino gein

    Feel free to correct if I'm interpreting this wrong.

    So far, I think there are positives and negatives. The system is efficient at condensing the information into a small number syllables without being overcomplicated. Compare the the 11 syllables in "one hundred thousand two hundred and eighty" to the 7 in geintoso ziinto otno.

    On the other hand, the suffix system creates a stressed-unstressed pattern that would be unnatural in conversation. The longer the number, the more exaggerated this becomes. Having suffixes "stack" (as in geintoso "one hundred thousand") somewhat solves the problem.

    Edit: After some discussion, we've arrived at hot (pronounced like "hoat") as the new word for "eight" to tie in with the other numbers hir and hen.

    by paarthurnax
    June 25, 2015

    Previous thread for reference.

    One minor correction, the word for "eight" (at some point) will change from eln to ot. That can happen regardless of the number system.

    Some written number examples with the above system:

    • 18 - geino ot
    • 151 - geinto heno gein
    • 7,256 - zoso ziinto heno sok
    • 100,280 - geintoso ziinto otno
    • 850,321 - geinto henoso sedto ziino gein

    Feel free to correct if I'm interpreting this wrong.

    So far, I think there are positives and negatives. The system is efficient at condensing the information into a small number syllables without being overcomplicated. Compare the the 11 syllables in "one hundred thousand two hundred and eighty" to the 7 in geintoso ziinto otno.

    On the other hand, the suffix system creates a stressed-unstressed pattern that would be unnatural in conversation. The longer the number, the more exaggerated this becomes. Having suffixes "stack" (as in geintoso "one hundred thousand") somewhat solves the problem.

    Edit: After some discussion, we've arrived at hot (pronounced like "hoat") as the new word for "eight" to tie in with the other numbers hir and hen.


    paarthurnax
    Administrator
    June 27, 2015

    It seems like we have the individual numbers figured out. I have one small suggestion regarding the suffix -so for the thousands. is an unvoiced consonant, and can be difficult to pronounce after a voiced consonant without introducing a glottal stop, as in geinso or zudso. I would recommend a variation of -zo for these words; geinzo, zudzo, yedzo, etc. to ease pronunciation.

    by paarthurnax
    June 27, 2015

    It seems like we have the individual numbers figured out. I have one small suggestion regarding the suffix -so for the thousands. is an unvoiced consonant, and can be difficult to pronounce after a voiced consonant without introducing a glottal stop, as in geinso or zudso. I would recommend a variation of -zo for these words; geinzo, zudzo, yedzo, etc. to ease pronunciation.


    paarthurnax
    Administrator
    June 28, 2015

    Base 3 spoken system:

    • One
    • Two
    • Three/Triad
    • Triad + one
    • Triad + two
    • Two-Triads / half dozen
    • Three-Triads
    • Four-Triads / dozen

    (mostly for my own notes)

    by paarthurnax
    June 28, 2015

    Base 3 spoken system:

    • One
    • Two
    • Three/Triad
    • Triad + one
    • Triad + two
    • Two-Triads / half dozen
    • Three-Triads
    • Four-Triads / dozen

    (mostly for my own notes)

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