Fildovah
Drem yol lok. I just discovered this site today and am quite pleased that there are so many dedicated to speaking in dragon. I myself was transcribing the language into a notebook for my own practice, from the Elder Scrolls wikia, and no sooner did I finish than I discovered this site with over 2,500 words?! It's a nightmare! But a welcome one. I was hoping to be able to learn the language off the computer but now that looks impossible. I very much like that such effort has been taken to complete the language (I was going to make up new words myself), as in its canon state it can't support the construction of new random sentences very well. I have personally come up with a number of personal discoveries about the language, some of which I'll share. First off, the word thu'um itself. I hope most of you realize that Odahviing pronounced this word "thurum" in the game, as the apostraphy clearly represents the omission of the "r" in "ur" - which by the way, for being a dovahzul character, is very rarely used. I personally believe several original words containing or ending in "u" are actually missing the apostraphy which would indicate the use of "ur". Moving ahead... my belief is that the word thu'um translates to "divine breath". I believe "thur" - overlord - can also be translated as "divine" or "god", from how it is used. (Does anyone know what Alduin meant when he named himself "Alduin Thuriin"?) As for breath, I note that su translates as "air" and su'um as "breath". If we suppose that dragons would define regular breath as "air-breath" (being that they often also breathe fire), and perhaps also that "su" is really "sur", we get surum or su'um. So now you see, why I believe thu'um means "divine breath"; I saw that "um" is here non-canonically translated as "around" and would like to see that changed. :) I have a hypothetical proposition of another kind as well. Does anyone here play Magic: The Gathering? There is a group of dragons known as the "Primeval Dragons" whose names are said to be in "Old Draconic", corresponding to the dragon life stages: http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Primeval_Dragons#Primeval_Dragons http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Rhammidarigaaz http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Rith http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Treva http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Dromar http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Crosis Note first that these names sound rather like dovahzul, including the "aaz" ending. What first caught my eye, though, was Crosis, who represents death. In dovahzul, krosis means "sorrow". In MTG, his full name is "Crosis, the Purger", and sorrow is one of the primary forms of purging one's soul, not to mention the obvious connection with death. I believe it's no accident - and that the authors of the respective examples did not necessarily know about the coincidense. Suffice it to say, you need a bit of belief in otherworldly dimensions and real dragon spirits from them in order to believe any of this - don't suppose we have any pagans running around here. Anyway, take it for what it's worth; I believe there may be actual dragons or dragon-friends inspiring these languages, and that makes it all the more worthy for me.
Fildovah
July 18, 2013 |
Drem yol lok. I just discovered this site today and am quite pleased that there are so many dedicated to speaking in dragon. I myself was transcribing the language into a notebook for my own practice, from the Elder Scrolls wikia, and no sooner did I finish than I discovered this site with over 2,500 words?! It's a nightmare! But a welcome one. I was hoping to be able to learn the language off the computer but now that looks impossible. I very much like that such effort has been taken to complete the language (I was going to make up new words myself), as in its canon state it can't support the construction of new random sentences very well. I have personally come up with a number of personal discoveries about the language, some of which I'll share. First off, the word thu'um itself. I hope most of you realize that Odahviing pronounced this word "thurum" in the game, as the apostraphy clearly represents the omission of the "r" in "ur" - which by the way, for being a dovahzul character, is very rarely used. I personally believe several original words containing or ending in "u" are actually missing the apostraphy which would indicate the use of "ur". Moving ahead... my belief is that the word thu'um translates to "divine breath". I believe "thur" - overlord - can also be translated as "divine" or "god", from how it is used. (Does anyone know what Alduin meant when he named himself "Alduin Thuriin"?) As for breath, I note that su translates as "air" and su'um as "breath". If we suppose that dragons would define regular breath as "air-breath" (being that they often also breathe fire), and perhaps also that "su" is really "sur", we get surum or su'um. So now you see, why I believe thu'um means "divine breath"; I saw that "um" is here non-canonically translated as "around" and would like to see that changed. :) I have a hypothetical proposition of another kind as well. Does anyone here play Magic: The Gathering? There is a group of dragons known as the "Primeval Dragons" whose names are said to be in "Old Draconic", corresponding to the dragon life stages: http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Primeval_Dragons#Primeval_Dragons http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Rhammidarigaaz http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Rith http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Treva http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Dromar http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Crosis Note first that these names sound rather like dovahzul, including the "aaz" ending. What first caught my eye, though, was Crosis, who represents death. In dovahzul, krosis means "sorrow". In MTG, his full name is "Crosis, the Purger", and sorrow is one of the primary forms of purging one's soul, not to mention the obvious connection with death. I believe it's no accident - and that the authors of the respective examples did not necessarily know about the coincidense. Suffice it to say, you need a bit of belief in otherworldly dimensions and real dragon spirits from them in order to believe any of this - don't suppose we have any pagans running around here. Anyway, take it for what it's worth; I believe there may be actual dragons or dragon-friends inspiring these languages, and that makes it all the more worthy for me. |